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    ha ha ..yes not like me at all. Is that what it was ? I thought it mighta been a large slate

    Zero reports, zero participation and then a PM asking for info tends to offend - I delete such PM's so don't waste your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Hill View Post
    I would have been tempted to inform the authorities regarding the asbestos. At least it can then be removed safely. God only knows the consequences involved if the chav fraternity with no brain cells start kicking these around the joint.
    The owners, TBA and the local council already know about the asbestos that's there - they have known about it for years but have failed to do much about it. The chavs (un?)fortunately have already been kicking it about as have these guys by going in there. (No offence, but just because it's in a bag doesn't mean it's not floating around the air. ;))

    Seriously, after seeing that I wouldn't return and from what I've read about Turner and Newall, I wouldn't go onto one of their sites. The fact they were at the head of a massive cartel who put asbestos before any sort of proper health and safety of the workers and local residents should be a bit of a warning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slidingloopz View Post
    The owners, TBA and the local council already know about the asbestos that's there - they have known about it for years but have failed to do much about it. The chavs (un?)fortunately have already been kicking it about as have these guys by going in there. (No offence, but just because it's in a bag doesn't mean it's not floating around the air. ;))

    Seriously, after seeing that I wouldn't return and from what I've read about Turner and Newall, I wouldn't go onto one of their sites. The fact they were at the head of a massive cartel who put asbestos before any sort of proper health and safety of the workers and local residents should be a bit of a warning.
    I have been looking into this myself,and makes for grim reading in places. Perhaps the local council need another poke then? I used to work in the building trade and had to take regular asbestos awareness courses, so I know enough about it to raise my concerns regarding potential dire consequences at this site in It's current state. If the council have known about it for as long as you say! Then having a total disregard to health and safety surely wont go down well in higher quarters? Bottom line is...... It's contaminated and not a safe area to be in. The owners could be in serious shit here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Hill View Post
    I have been looking into this myself,and makes for grim reading in places. Perhaps the local council need another poke then? I used to work in the building trade and had to take regular asbestos awareness courses, so I know enough about it to raise my concerns regarding potential dire consequences at this site in It's current state. If the council have known about it for as long as you say! Then having a total disregard to health and safety surely wont go down well in higher quarters? Bottom line is...... It's contaminated and not a safe area to be in. The owners could be in serious shit here!
    No, the owners won't be in serious shit - that's the thing. It's just finger pointing between MMC Estates, Rathborn Trust, TBA, FDML, and the local council. It's one of many timebombs that T&N thought/hoped would disappear into obscurity since 1999.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slidingloopz View Post
    No, the owners won't be in serious shit - that's the thing. It's just finger pointing between MMC Estates, Rathborn Trust, TBA, FDML, and the local council. It's one of many timebombs that T&N thought/hoped would disappear into obscurity since 1999.
    That wouldn't surprise me at all mate.

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    I was going to do a report, but Judderman has pretty much nailed the place with his pics, so 3 photos to compliment his shots







    The place has recently been described as Lancashires Chernobyl, this is a factory where kids now freely wander and metal thieves loot whilst bathing in raw asbestos fibres.

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    The bags you see at the bottom of the frame on the image below were
    bags of raw asbestos fibre.
    Actually the bags attached to the particle extraction system contain glass strand which is what the factory had been using instead of asbestos for the last twenty years.

    No asbestos based products have been produced there since the early 90's.

    that said the buildings themselves are built almost solely from asbestos, from the roofs down to the fenceposts outside....

    Dave

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    Nice set there bud, looks a good, if somewhat 'risky' explore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worldoftheshadows View Post
    Actually the bags attached to the particle extraction system contain glass strand which is what the factory had been using instead of asbestos for the last twenty years.

    No asbestos based products have been produced there since the early 90's.

    that said the buildings themselves are built almost solely from asbestos, from the roofs down to the fenceposts outside....

    Dave
    It's still a ticking time bomb though :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by worldoftheshadows View Post
    No asbestos based products have been produced there since the early 90's.

    Dave
    It was phased out between 1995 and 1998, so that's technically incorrect. (White asbestos that is as blue and brown had already been banned in the 80s.) It wasn't until Federal Mogul stepped in that they could afford to produced non-asbestos products. But that would only account for the white stuff in the polythene bags. What about the other blue/grey looking stuff? It's certainly not Kevlar or glass fibres as that's not the way you make/process those thing.

    Either way, it's riddled with the stuff and unless you're in a lab lookng at it down a microscope there is really no way of telling.

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