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Thread: Maiden Newton to Poole Harbour Stopline, Dorset – first look – October 2010

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    Arrow Maiden Newton to Poole Harbour Stopline, Dorset – first look – October 2010


    This is the other Stopline that I’m looking at.

    Info from the PSG website: http://www.pillbox-study-group.org.u...oplinepage.htm


    “Down in the deepest, darkest depths of Dorset the remains of hundreds of Second
    World War structures still lay littered around the countryside. The county of
    Dorset, with its extensive coastline, natural harbours and relative proximity to
    the shores of northern France made it a primary invasion target. To that end
    many of the Defence structures were positioned, quite naturally, along the
    coastline and many are still to be found in the well documented areas of Chesil
    Beach, Portland and Studland Bay.
    But what of the Inland Defence ? After extensive research of the local 1:2500
    scale maps and numerous site visits to the Maiden Newton area I concluded that
    there was infact a Stop-Line approximately 15km inland from Chesil Beach. The
    following structures were found and reported to the Defence of Britain Project:

    Maiden Newton itself is a small village situated at the confluence of two river
    valleys, the Dorchester to Yeovil Railway Line and the A356 road from Dorchester
    to Crewkerne. A pretty important position ! Not unusual in itself but the
    extensive defensive structures found around its perimeter suggest that it was an
    Anti-Tank Island. More than one hundred anti-tank blocks, a Nissen hut,
    Ammunition stores and even a Spiggot Mortar base complete with stainless steel
    mounting pin remain.
    The Stop-line itself uses the man made railway line from Maiden Newton to the
    village of Grimstone, 5km southeastwards towards Dorchester. The numerous
    Pillboxes of Type22/23 design are positioned to use the embankment to the best
    possible topographical advantage. Almost each has commanding views across the
    river valley southwards and of course towards the Sea. Any advancing armour and
    troops would have had the difficulty of fording the river before an attempt at
    scaling the embankment could begin.”



    Getting to PB’s is harder than some people realize. There are 6 on this stretch and although I’ve been planning this for a while I only managed to get a Type 22 and the removed AT obstacle at the bridge. I spent more time reccying approaches than I intended to and had to cut short the trek after falling foul of the whiplash injury I got in a minor prang a week prior to this explore. I’m not normally faint-hearted when it comes to PB hunts but several of my access routes were impassable or downright dangerous (even fully fit) on your own.

    Having said that, I’m going back soon and will as usual update as and when.

    So now I’ve made my excuses for getting a strike rate of 1 (and a bit) in 6…………………the 22 I did manage!



    Shows serious deterioration outside but this is misleading as it’s only the entrance wall suffering badly







    inside isn’t too bad but is flooded;







    And it has the unfaced corner bricks I’ve seen in someone else’s report recently but can’t for the life of me remember who’s it was. Anyone know? I think this was done simply to save time building the PB.







    The site of the removed AT obstacles. There is evidence of what looks like at least two mine sockets remaining;







    I could use a second pair of hands exploring this Stopline so anyone remotely interested can PM me. :)

    Thanks for looking.
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    Munchh are those the remains of vertical rail sockets under the bridge?
    It was me I ate all the pies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cptpies View Post
    Munchh are those the remains of vertical rail sockets under the bridge?
    There are 2 well defined but worn concrete bases directly beneath the arch from the side the pic is taken (ie roadside of the bridge). These have what look to be circular mine sockets in them. They're similar to the ones I reported on the TSL rail block. For vertical rails, I would expect to see oblong or square sockets which were not apparent. There are 2 concrete areas further under the bridge. My overall feeling was that this could be a mined block of some description but needs further investigation. I will survey/ photograph it more when I go back and update this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchh View Post
    The following structures were found and reported to the Defence of Britain Project:
    ...the extensive defensive structures found around its perimeter suggest that it was an
    Anti-Tank Island.
    I'm really looking forward to seeing what you find there. I've found what definitely looks like a WW2 building on a farm near to an Anti-Tank Island on the Taunton Stop Line, so it'll be interesting to compare buildings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Munchh View Post
    Getting to PB’s is harder than some people realize.
    Isn't it just!

    Cheers, Munchh. An unusual stretch and sounds like some good stuff on there. Look forward to seeing it as it unfolds. :)
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    Good stuff, Munchh. :)
    Are the pillboxes on the clifftops from Highcliffe to Barnton-on-Sea still there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_historian View Post
    Good stuff, Munchh. :)
    Are the pillboxes on the clifftops from Highcliffe to Barnton-on-Sea still there?
    Thanks TH and don't know is the short answer, haven't got that far yet :) Stay tuned
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxylady View Post
    I'm really looking forward to seeing what you find there. I've found what definitely looks like a WW2 building on a farm near to an Anti-Tank Island on the Taunton Stop Line, so it'll be interesting to compare buildings.
    Cheers Foxy. :)

    Things are certainly hotting up on the Stopline/ ATI front it seems. Collaboration is inevitable at some point I feel.

    I'm putting together an update to this report as I write which will be added today. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchh View Post
    Thanks TH and don't know is the short answer, haven't got that far yet :) Stay tuned
    Look forward to it!
    Can't remember if Barnton or Milford on Sea come first, but the pillboxes stretch right along the clifftop common at one of them.

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    Default Thread update, more PB's added


    Cont………


    I was able to get back to this section and captured a few more PB’s

    Firstly, a revisit to the AT obstacle S0000049 beneath the rail bridge. More pics capn’ what do you reckon, 2 x mine sockets and 2 x mystery concrete lumps?







    Next up and just to the north, S0000075. Type 22 variant PB, protruding corner bricks and entrance porch, overgrown outside and clean inside but inaccessible at present. My thanks to Richard Read, the unofficial custodian, for giving me access and who now may clear the vegetation and unblock the entrance for us, top bloke.









    Realising my obvious interest in things military, Richard was keen to show off his collection of converted ex-Army Scammel recovery vehicles. He’s adapted them for civilian use but a lot of the original parts are re-used particularly the primary winch gear hidden away in the chassis and the cable haul on this one.





    Moving south east from this point along the railway line to S0000074. This is given as Type 23 on the DOB which it isn’t. I think it’s a Type 26 variant with porch. These are uncommon, apparently only 199 are recorded as extant. This one is in good nick. :)







    More soon, thanks for looking. :)
    Last edited by Munchh; 8th Dec 10 at 08:23. Reason: Text edits
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    Default Thread update.. and some more pics


    Cont 2………..


    Again moving south east, another Type 26 variant. Inaccessible but in general good order under the mass of vegetation. Thanks to the owner of Crockway Farm for both access and assistance in finding the site. Another really accommodating landowner.



    Crossing under the line to reach the PB







    Followed by this half destroyed Type 22. S0000073











    Thanks for looking.
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