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sennelager66

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Having plotted out the tantalizing area running from East of Bramsall down to Hazeley, East of Hook and out along the Basingstoke Canal it was time for me to start chipping away at the plethora of goodies in the areas. It wasn't easy be any means and the area was criss crossed with rivers, boggy ground and the going was tough. Most areas in the woods were triffid head height in ferns and nettles and i wondered what the hell made me tackle such a forbidding tract of land. I did get a few fails as always but again they will still be sat there waiting for me to say hello soon so no worries on that score.
The rewards were high though as it got me to my first prefab 26, a section post and the amount of shutters still in place in the area with their pull to cables intact made for interesting viewing. I might have found an undocumented 24 though this will need confirming. Some of the information on the DoB was slightly inaccurate but i shall comment on this later in the thread.
I cycled down to the area after a faint hint that it wouldn't rain only for it to pee it down as soon as i reached the first area i wished to explore. Fantastic news when i knew i would be knee deep in wet sodden grass who seemed to pass their seeds to me like i was a magnet. I also came to a stand off with a herd of cows again but this time i handled the situation calmly, clucking at them like an idiot and touching their noses to let them know Sunday roast wasn't on the cards just yet. Once again i decided to stay out there after the light fell so i could make a very early morning start and get to the line of pillboxes that were so close but so far away. Hacking away at the undergrowth in certain areas proved just rewards so i hope you enjoy the photos.

PILLBOX (PREFABRICATED): S0011154
Partly flooded up to 2 inches or so, but the stones inside provided decent stepping stones to allow me to get inside to have a squint at me first prefab. There are two further nother in adjacent fields but the weather at this time was not fun so i need to revisit.

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Shutters still in place on some of the embrasures. Something i was to find increasingly common the further into the explore i went.

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Having searched in vain in the area for other remnants and battling the wet grass i gave up on the area and decided that a dryer day was needed for such madness.
Cycling back up towards the junction of Wiggins Copse and the junction of the B3011, located on the right hand side are two AT cylinders which are not on the DoB.

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Taking a rest at the Shoulder Of Mutton Pub, i then left the bike behind for a cross country excursion which, with the sun breaking out brought a smile on my face once i had located my first reference point. From there i could get my bearings and skirt the fields full of curious cows. These ones stayed away from me thankfully. An open field dash on the pee, muck and mud would have been interesting. The DoB confused me here but more of that in a moment.

PILLBOX (TYPE FW3/24): S0010902
This was a first view of a T shaped table for me.

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PILLBOX (TYPE FW3/24): S0010905 (possibly)
Sat further down the bank south east to the copse of trees running opposite to Hatch Farm. The pillbox overlooks the section post which is sat in the next field and to the south west of this pillbox. Overgrown and inaccessible. One wooden shelf in situ, and one 'T' shaped table.

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SECTION POST: S0007439
Again something new for me. My first section post. Four embrasures in a boomerang shape. Sadly no shelving in situ and all the embrasures are southern facing. The nearby pillbox would have covered the exposed rear of the section post.

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Single entrance on the western side.

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PILLBOX (TYPE FW3/24): S0012846

Internal X-shaped blast wall.

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As mentioned - in this line of hedge there are 2 type 24's and the variant.

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PILLBOX (VARIANT): S0007005

Rectangular pillbox with 3 embrasures, all in the same wall. Sat in the line of hedge and facing opposite to the section post. This is a heavily fortified area.

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The view from the doorway looking over the two 24's sat behind the line of hedge.

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I shall add part 2 later. Thanks for viewing.
 
Nice photos. ive got the need to go and do some more myself.

Do you carry anything to beat down the nettles? Ive often thought about taking a walking pole to do the job.
 
great work senne - amazing what's still in situ - love the fold down shelves and I have never seen so many flaps :) I've never seen or even heard of those T tables before, what were they for ? they can't serve as effective ricochet protection, could they have been post war modifications?
 
Great pics mate, I have never seen any flaps still in situ, so makes a change.
 
do you tag them on maps once found?

cptpies maintains a google earth overlay that has the known ones on and a huge number of removed
sites and a fair number of sites of which the current status is unknown.

you'll see reference numbers attached to most pics these are the defence of britain database reference number or the extended defence of britain reference number ... I warn you though once you get into assisting in recording these sites you'll be hooked - we can't be held responsible for the effect on your free time, relationships or social life ;)
 
cptpies maintains a google earth overlay that has the known ones on and a huge number of removed
sites and a fair number of sites of which the current status is unknown.

you'll see reference numbers attached to most pics these are the defence of britain database reference number or the extended defence of britain reference number ... I warn you though once you get into assisting in recording these sites you'll be hooked - we can't be held responsible for the effect on your free time, relationships or social life ;)

Seconded :) but you shouldve mentioned the Hawthorn ,nettles and brambles as well
 
true - but it's best to learn for yourself that July's earlobe high nettles have especially powerful stings at gonad height - I wasn't going to give away all of the secret pleasures at once :)

perhaps we should also mention the excitable heifers ;)

Yeah them cows. I got trapped in a pillbox for a few minutes yesterday. Some funny photos were taken. I do like them but by christ can they be a pain.

In relation to the nettles - if i know i am in an area where there is water and masses of nettles i double layer up and can wade through them without getting stung too much. I have learnt to ignore the stings now though and have been stung so much my feet swell up.

I also take secateurs with me to cut away some of the nettles and brambles (hate these), as well as anything with a thorn on it.

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Great pics mate, I have never seen any flaps still in situ, so makes a change.

Just don't touch them mate as most i have come across are asbestos. It was great to see the hook / nail and wire in situ also to keep the flaps in the closed position.
 
that cow shot is brilliant :)

Note for any townies and rurex virgins:
it does pays to remember that cows can be quite dangerous we had a couple of farmers in Derbyshire kiilled by cows that got spooked - we have dairy farmers in the family and they are more wary of heifers and cows that have just been sepearated from their calves than they are of bulls
 
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Great pictures, you guys astound me with your knowledge of these pillboxes , do you tag them on maps once found?

I tag them on GE, map them on OS maps and AA maps and add my updates and comments to a map or notepad while at the site. I also number the site visits in order to ensure that the photos relate to the comments made. The great thing about this is it builds up the stop lines as you progress and will give you a logical step into working out possible locality for other defences. It is possible to spot additional defence spec while in an area if you are observant and it does pay off. I certainly make sure i very closely inspect a site and surrounds as it's often the munutiae which give a site visit the rewards.
 
............................. I've never seen or even heard of those T tables before, what were they for ? they can't serve as effective ricochet protection, could they have been post war modifications?

Vickers on a tripod mount set up to fire on a fixed line through the doorway.

Great post Senn, another cherry busted mate. :)
 
Cheers Munchh. I think i busted a few cherries that day.

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Just to give a reference point to the table. Right feed so it would give an idea of positioning and feed to the gun. It also would provide sufficient cover to the feeder and the operator dependant on the height of the tripod. The bottom photo shows the simple locking mechanism strap to prevent spraying bullets inside the pillbox and creating an interesting scenario of bullets ricocheting around inside the pillbox.
 
Vickers on a tripod mount set up to fire on a fixed line through the doorway. :)

blimey you wouldn't be popular with your comrades when you opened up with the gun so close to the centre of the box it would be even more deafening than firing out of an embrasure, and in S0010905 it looks like it would be almost useless in practice in any case because of the mound of earth behind the entrance.
 
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