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    Well its been a while since I posted and after an enquiry on an old post I realised its time to quit being lazy put something on here.
    So this is the defences at the eastern end of Llanberis Pass.It seems to have been covered by 4 pillboxes and a Spigot mortar (anyone knows of more please shout out :) )

    Starting with the Spigot Mortar emplacement on the slope east of the road junction
    E35599 (2) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr



    E35599 (4) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    E35599 (7) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    Below this is a stone clad type 22 facing the road junction
    E06155 (2) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    E06155 (4) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    E06155 (14) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    E06155 (15) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    E06155 (10) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    Covering the road to the north a stone built type 26
    E06154 (2) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    E06154 (4) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    E06154 (6) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    To the south another stone built type 26
    E06153 (3) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    E06153 (5) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    E06153 (7) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    E06153 (8) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    Finally over the road into the pass
    E06156 (4) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    E06156 (7) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    E06156 (11) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    E06156 (19) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

    E06156 (32) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

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    Some lovely World War Two goodies there rich.nice to see you posting again.missed your stuff.
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    Good to hear from you gain Rich.

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    They are in good nick, Nice One Rich, Thanks
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    Amazes me how wet it is on the hillside where that spigot mortar position is. In theory there should be two more defensive positions just down the road there but I've not found anything (neither are in the original DoB Project data but were surveyed in 1940). There were some AT blocks down the Llanberis road up until a few years ago. Despite driving down there four times in the past fortnight I didn't look to see if they are still there. There is still a spigot mortar position down there - road is a clearway so you need to walk to it (easiest from Llanberis end)...though I suppose you could get your Maud to kick you out of the car, turn round at the end and pick you up again on the way back.

    Steve has photos of four more infantry position/sangars down Nant Ffrancon as well as the photos of the three misplaced spigot mortars. I've never managed to find out what the defences were at Ogwen Bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by druid View Post
    Amazes me how wet it is on the hillside where that spigot mortar position is. In theory there should be two more defensive positions just down the road there but I've not found anything (neither are in the original DoB Project data but were surveyed in 1940). There were some AT blocks down the Llanberis road up until a few years ago. Despite driving down there four times in the past fortnight I didn't look to see if they are still there. There is still a spigot mortar position down there - road is a clearway so you need to walk to it (easiest from Llanberis end)...though I suppose you could get your Maud to kick you out of the car, turn round at the end and pick you up again on the way back.

    Steve has photos of four more infantry position/sangars down Nant Ffrancon as well as the photos of the three misplaced spigot mortars. I've never managed to find out what the defences were at Ogwen Bank.
    You can see that other spigot on streetview but like you say its a walk back
    E08086 (2) by Rich Cooper 2012, on Flickr

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    Its been awhile Rich, I always look forward to your posts about pillboxes. This one is quite interesting.
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    Checked my database and found there are 2 spigot mortors and either 5 or 6 pillboxes. Nice work ther Rich
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    Quote Originally Posted by night crawler View Post
    Checked my database and found there are 2 spigot mortors and either 5 or 6 pillboxes. Nice work ther Rich
    Is that the edob database ? Some on that are duplicates and one is a drain

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    The Defence of Britain Project data is, sadly, pretty poor. Poor recording, too much done from the desk, lots of transcription errors (being generous...quite a few are just figments of someones imagination!).
    Steve T's WWII Google Earth overlay is better with it's corrected positions and additions. It's far from perfect but is probably a good 'finding aid' for things that are known.

    Back to this area.
    The original DoB Project has a duplicate pillbox to the west of the one that protects the lake (just in case the enemy were taking a bath). The old boathouse would have made a better defensive position (the ruins of it are still there).
    Spigot Mortar bases were issued in threes. If the pointless one Rich has photographed above is one of three and the one down Llanberis Road is the second of that three (conjecture , no record to say it was) ...then my guess is that the third will be (or have been) near the Pen Y Pass Hotel (and the surveys do say there was something around there). It's quite possible that those two aren't related...in which case there are four missing ;-)

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