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<blockquote data-quote="Hayman" data-source="post: 368366" data-attributes="member: 52867"><p>My line about the NCB having “hundreds of thousands of slaves digging tunnels all around the UK!” was to point out the absurdness of the suggestion that the caves were dug by slaves. But the NCB miners were tied to the closed shop and NUM or NACODS membership. Hence my saying anyone who burnt coal was contributing to 'slavery' of one sort or another, just as today anyone with ancestors even remotely connected to the tobacco, sugar or cotton industries is supposedly guilty of all manner of crimes.</p><p></p><p>I know "The National Coal Board wasn't formed until 1947." Yet many NCB employees worked in conditions much worse than whoever dug the caves: miners contracted pneumoconiosis or black lung, and there were daily risks of underground explosions, flooding, electric shock. And the NCB was formed under a Labour government; Labour, the workers’ party. Weren’t the coal miners ‘wage slaves’? Isn’t every wage earner?</p><p></p><p>And what is ‘slavery’? Is conscription slavery? Did slaves fight in the British armed forces in both World Wars? Were the National Servicemen in my billet in the 1950s and 1960s ‘slaves’? In England, the remnants of serfdom had largely died out by 1500, so who were the wildly imagined slaves who supposedly dug the cave(s) 200 or 300 years later? As we know, the 1833 Abolition of Slavery Act was brought in to stop slavery in other parts of the world, not in the UK.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hayman, post: 368366, member: 52867"] My line about the NCB having “hundreds of thousands of slaves digging tunnels all around the UK!” was to point out the absurdness of the suggestion that the caves were dug by slaves. But the NCB miners were tied to the closed shop and NUM or NACODS membership. Hence my saying anyone who burnt coal was contributing to 'slavery' of one sort or another, just as today anyone with ancestors even remotely connected to the tobacco, sugar or cotton industries is supposedly guilty of all manner of crimes. I know "The National Coal Board wasn't formed until 1947." Yet many NCB employees worked in conditions much worse than whoever dug the caves: miners contracted pneumoconiosis or black lung, and there were daily risks of underground explosions, flooding, electric shock. And the NCB was formed under a Labour government; Labour, the workers’ party. Weren’t the coal miners ‘wage slaves’? Isn’t every wage earner? And what is ‘slavery’? Is conscription slavery? Did slaves fight in the British armed forces in both World Wars? Were the National Servicemen in my billet in the 1950s and 1960s ‘slaves’? In England, the remnants of serfdom had largely died out by 1500, so who were the wildly imagined slaves who supposedly dug the cave(s) 200 or 300 years later? As we know, the 1833 Abolition of Slavery Act was brought in to stop slavery in other parts of the world, not in the UK. [/QUOTE]
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