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Johnson Car Factory

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A little slice of Detroit in Scotland is how I would describe this place.

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Built in 1913 for the Arrol Johnson Co Ltd, the works comprised a large group of three-storey, reinforced concrete, flat-roofed buildings covering some 250,000 square feet on a riverside site. The design was modelled after the work of Albert Kahn, a German born architect who became the foremost American industrial architect of his day, sometimes referred to as The Architect of Detroit!
Additions in the same manner by Kerr & Watson (Johnstone, Renfrew), 1924. Further additions worth £3 million in 1957, following acquisition of the premises by the North British Rubber Co Ltd

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Arrol-Johnston (later known as Arrol-Aster) was an early Scottish manufacturer of automobiles, which operated from 1895 to 1931 and produced the first automobile manufactured in Britain. The company also developed the world's first "off-road" vehicle for the Egyptian government, and another designed to travel on ice and snow for Ernest Shackleton's Nimrod Expedition to the South Pole.
This would have been neither practical nor possible with the technology of the time, but the stunt did provide publicity for the venture and the car, and he provided photographs of the the car in the snowy wastes in return

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In 1929 Malcom Campbell's record breaking Blue Bird car received its third rebuild. The chassis, engine and drive train remained the same, but the bodywork was replaced with one built in Dumfries by Arrol Aster. The lowered body required a hump around the cockpit where Campbell sat astride the gearbox, and he surface radiators were replaced by a conventional circular nose opening, covered by a distinctive birdcage grille.

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Car production at the works came to an end in the late 1920s, with the factory finally closing in 1931. The site was eventually bought by the North British Rubber Co Ltd in 1946/7, and changed to rubber production. The site is owned by a subsidiary of the Gates Rubber Company.
In 1993, the former Arrol Johnson works was described as "the only virtually complete British example of a concrete framed, multi-storey daylight car factory built in emulation of American principles.

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I know many have been here so its a bit repetitive but for a empty building its a pretty awesome place simply by its scale.

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I say its a empty building, strangely this room appeared to of missed the clearing out crew somehow & still had some quite old paperwork!

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Thanks for looking
 
thanks for the history and great photos, including the early b/w - I like the large Arrol-Johnston lettering, so evocative of the period.
But re the left-over paperwork - it always amazes and annoys me how casual people can be about other peoples' personal information. Someone's national insurance number and other details , just lying around, waiting to be stolen.
 
Looks quite sad now, to begin with there was still a fair amount of carpet tile and wellie boot related stuff lying around, and a token effort at security.
 
thanks for the history and great photos, including the early b/w - I like the large Arrol-Johnston lettering, so evocative of the period.
But re the left-over paperwork - it always amazes and annoys me how casual people can be about other peoples' personal information. Someone's national insurance number and other details , just lying around, waiting to be stolen.

everywhere I go I see it tbh, employers generally dont care.
 
Looks quite sad now, to begin with there was still a fair amount of carpet tile and wellie boot related stuff lying around, and a token effort at security.

Iv seen early pics, it was in substantially better condition too
 
I notice lots of pebbles on the roof, why was this?
common practice, it protects the felt from the elements inc uv which can quickly deteriorate it. still do it on industrial flat roofs now even though Im sure the coating technology has come on a long way.
 
Hopefully it will be saved, not sure if its listed though
Yes, it is definitely listed, Category B.

Agree re. the pebbles – you don't need them for Sarna or Alwitra type single ply membranes provided they're mechanically fixed, but if they're loose laid you might still ballast the roof to prevent wind uplift.
 
Yes, it is definitely listed, Category B.

Agree re. the pebbles – you don't need them for Sarna or Alwitra type single ply membranes provided they're mechanically fixed, but if they're loose laid you might still ballast the roof to prevent wind uplift.

just done load of steelwork at Royal veterinary collage & they covered the new build operating theatre roof with em, bloody nightmare trying to install a free standing key klamp handrail on the stuff!
 
just done load of steelwork at Royal veterinary collage & they covered the new build operating theatre roof with em, bloody nightmare trying to install a free standing key klamp handrail on the stuff!
The Castlepoint Shopping Centre in Bournemouth has just had its car park rebuilt because the orginal had sub-standard concrete and too widely-spaced supports. The swept-up canopy over the walkway in front of the shops has vertical bars that are there to keep it from being lifted up by the
wind - not to carry the weight.
 
Very nice, quite into my vintage cars (we have a 1924 Austin 12) and never knew about the place or the company.

Mad that our listed structures end up in this condition, given the state of it and the size of it I cant imagine what its future is, other than demolition.
 
Very nice, quite into my vintage cars (we have a 1924 Austin 12) and never knew about the place or the company.

Mad that our listed structures end up in this condition, given the state of it and the size of it I cant imagine what its future is, other than demolition.
Nice!
I cut my teeth learning about cars on my dads 34 Morris 8. mate &myself got it up & running when we were 14 cos dad had never done anything with it. it was 80% restored when he decided to sell it after 30yrs of ownership.
 
Nice!
I cut my teeth learning about cars on my dads 34 Morris 8. mate &myself got it up & running when we were 14 cos dad had never done anything with it. it was 80% restored when he decided to sell it after 30yrs of ownership.
That seems a bit mean of him. Two of my army mates each had a pre-war Riley which they restored. One of the chaps was called Riley - on the right in the attached photos. I'm still in touch with the mate on the left.
 

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That seems a bit mean of him. Two of my army mates each had a pre-war Riley which they restored. One of the chaps was called Riley - on the right in the attached photos. I'm still in touch with the mate on the left.
Yh I guess I havent got room for it myself cos of all the crap Iv got laying around lol
 
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